Barack the second?

28 April 2011 last updated at 14: 37 GMT the President's birth certificate describes him as "Barack Hussein Obama, Ii". Why qualify it for the Roman numerals to?

If the President his birth certificate released long form on Wednesday, the focus was on the place of his birth, knew what most people already confirm - he was born in the United States.

But it seemed a light on a seldom-used part of his name, the II at the end.

The reason is, root, simply - the US President was the name of his father, given Barack Hussein Obama. In societies where this is common practice, a method of distinguishing between fathers and sons (sometimes grandfathers) is useful.

In the United States, the son as Joe Bloggs Junior will be known. For example, Al Gore, former Vice President is Albert Arnold Gore Jr U.S., because his father was also Albert Gore Arnold.

Read the most important story of Barack Hussein Obama has exactly the same name as his fatherIn would be cases such as this, junior a common SuffixBut II is also PossibleJoe Bloggs II would typically be used when a son unlike his grandfather is named after a related as his father -, for example. However, it is used sometimes as an alternative to Joe Bloggs Jr.

This is what they say behind the name Web site to the theme of Jr V II.

"Junior is used to distinguish a son with the same name as his father." The following conditions apply:

(1) A son of the father, no grandchildren must the junior.

(2) The names have exactly the same, including the middle name be.

3. The father must still life.

"" II "is used when close relatives, such as a grandfather or a great-uncle, shares the same name as the child."

Kenyan tradition

Miss manners' Guide to excruciatingly correct behavior, written by Judith Martin, takes the same line:

"The oldest living William Wellborn is countless, and starting to run junior, III, IV (or 3d, 4th, a form, the Miss Manners preferred), and so on from there."

Continue reading the main daughters are not usually "Juniors" but Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Anna Eleanor Roosevelt as their first daughter Anna Eleanor JrPresident Theodore Roosevelt was the son of an other Theodore Roosevelt but took the suffix Jr - but not, his own son, also Theodore, was known as Theodore JrJohn Paul Getty was II also known as John Paul Getty Jr, although he was born, Eugene Paul GettyTom cruise full name is Thomas cruise Mapother IVSo according to behind the name and Miss manners, the President should in any case been Barack Obama Jr, instead of Barack Hussein Obama II.

Is his name therefore painfully wrong?

In fact, it seems there are a lot of IIs in the United States, who were named after her father.

"It is usually junior, but can it II," Sharon Manitta, a spokesman in the United Kingdom for Democrats abroad, says his brother is a junior and dated, that once an III. "is it really no matter."

The decision, "Ii" instead of "Jr" on the birth certificate are not the choice may have been parents, she adds. It could be from the Hawaiian official were taken over, which registered the birth.

Barack Obama would pass to his own name to his son Kenyan father very comfortable with the idea – it's a common practice not only in the United States, but in his own country to, and in particular under the root of the Luo, to which he belonged.

But it would also be it normal that use the word "Junior", to the son, according to the BBC's Noel Mwakugu in Nairobi.

The comma?

In the United States, things easily change soon as the third Joe Bloggs in a row. Also those who began as Juniors IIs can be.

"Can the appointment by the Roman numerals I and II SR or Jr to distinguish between father and son with all the exact same name (first, Middle & last), or replaced if the grandson has the exact same name," explains Dr. Dave and Dr. Dee, which provide advice on health, medicine, relationships, families, etiquette, customs and fashion.

"The grandson will then have an III after his name." The grandfather and father can still SR and Jr, or use or the digits. "

According to Sharon Manitta tends to be used the larger numbers in swankier sectors of society.

"Juniors VI are farthest down the line, all over the place, but if it gets painful - I about - is come, then it is usually an upper middle-class family,", she says.

Attentive readers will notice that Barack Obama birth certificate also a comma between the "Obama" and the "II".

Is this horrible, or not? The authorities do not agree on this point. The Chicago Manual of style is against the comma. Dundee print (for life's special moments) is for.

In any case, it seems unlikely that disqualify Barack Obama from holding the Presidency of the Council.

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